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Female violence

May 5, 2008 · 7 Comments

Even today - in a very violent world, we see female violence as something that is quite abnormal, but should we?

Do we blame the rise of this violence simply on the lack of good female role-models, or the massive expanse of feminism throughout the last three decades. Women claiming the equality to men and taking it too far? Acting out like men after they have been fuelled up on drugs and alcohol - this violence is still rare, but is it a matter of aping their male counterparts?

The peer group always plays a large part in it, says consultant clinical psychologist Elie Godsi, author of Violence and Society: Making Sense of Madness and Badness.

“There’s a lot more of a ‘ladette’ culture where young women are aping and mimicking the traditional behaviour young men engage in.

“So there’s a small element of that, although I wouldn’t put too much [importance] on it.”

Many young people feel alienated from their family and community, he says, so the peer group plays a big part in gang culture, causing behaviour that the individual on her own would not contemplate.

Is this the case? Just a matter of making people feel more welcome in the community and family and things will go from bad to good?

From the comments left on this story:

“Women are defined in terms of relationships.. and men are defined in terms of achievements” is possibly the most depressing thing I’ve read in a long time. If that’s really true in Britain today, no wonder young women want to punch someone.

Lizzie, London

Is Lizzie correct?

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7 responses so far ↓

  • steve // May 5, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    It’s abnormal? I remember in grammar school girls getting into fights all the time, and this was 21 years ago. Go to a tough city, around bar closing time, say Kansas City, and you’ll see women brawling in the streets. Don’t buy the sugar and space and everything nice hype..

  • Will Rhodes // May 5, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    LOL - I don’t, Steve. Just one of my discussions if people what to comment :)

  • thebeadden // May 5, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    It’s such a loaded question. I really don’t have any answers. Mind you, I have plenty of suspicions. LOL

    Oh, I can just see someone rolling their eyes at this. But I think if women could stay home and raise their children, things might be different. But that’s easy to say. Not so easily done in today’s world.

    Second. Stress. No parents available to children when they need them most. Parents are too busy working, or too stressed out themselves. And you can empathize with them too.

    I have no children, so I could be way off base. But when I see a parent spending time with their children, and actually enjoying it. I smile. It seems so rare. Most of the time children look as if they are toted along like a piece of annoying luggage. You rarely see a smiling parent anymore.

    So they group together and their friends become their family. Their support group, and well I guess this is where it leads.

    I don’t know? Great topic though.

  • thebeadden // May 5, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    I didn’t even address your question Will. I’m sorry. I have a hard time with that. I don’t look at people in that way. So, it’s hard for me to give an answer.

    Fist of all, I don’t look at people based on gender.

    Second, I never look at what people would call “achievements” as what I consider achievements in life are not what the average person would define it.

    I can’t speak for anyone else. Sorry but I can’t help you on this one :)

  • thebeadden // May 5, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    What I MEANT to say is:

    What I consider achievements in life are not the same as your “average” person would define one.

    What a mess of a sentence that was. See? I told you I can’t write worth a crap! :)

  • Will Rhodes // May 5, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    So they group together and their friends become their family.

    That point is in the link, Beadden. Good on you for picking it up. :)

    You have made valid points - and having no children impresses me that you picked up on those points.

    Alison and I worked out how many hours a day we would have to have to keep up with the latest fad about having working parents and being positive role models in your children’s life.

    We need a day that is 42 hours long. That does include 8 hours sleep!

  • steve // May 7, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    this story is too funny

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120995103004666569.html

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